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  • You have been issued an edit block of 3 days for attempting to circumvent Move Page rights by creating your own articles that are duplicates of others already existing (and moving information from one to the other). Move rights have been purposefully restricted by Wikia Staff on this wiki due to these kinds of issues, and attempting to circumvent this without community discussion or even asking staff is very disrespectful. Page moves aside, please follow the Wiki's Manual of Style when adding new information to pages rather than making your own formatting. Any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know.

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  • Hey, just letting you I've gone through all dragon articles and cleaned up all those "breed sort" sections :) p.s. If you make changes to sub-type category descriptions, be sure to update these on the Sub-Types article page itself too.

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    • Oh, right! I forgot about the page. :)

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    • Please just notify me of sprite updates instead of going ahead yourself; the process used is not the correct one and the new & old files haven't been processed/categorised correctly. I've noticed a trend in acting on your own in your most recent edits, from making your own formatting on articles to trying to use a template which worked after 3 edits (usage information is on the template page if you hadn't seen it). If you're unsure about how to do something, please just ask me instead of trying to do it on your own; wikis are community projects.

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  • Hey! I'm really sorry this took so long, life has not been kind to me. Regarding your previous mention of that bit at the end of dragon articles' first sections where it says they sort between x and y, I think you're right in that these are ok to remove, especially as you pointed out that the release of new dragons would mean they need to be regularly updated. Some old dragons didn't even have this on their articles to begin with. They were added to many because under the old sort, some breeds would sort under strange names and I don't just mean the Holiday ones. Even the newly added Zyu- and Sinomorphs sort under strange names for those of us keeping the old sorting system.

    In cases like theirs, where they used to sort under strange names (or for newly-released ones that sort under strange names for those still using Legacy Breed Sort), their article needs to reflect this where the sorting information should be.

    The best example is the Coastal Waverunner; I know when the new sorting was released I did my best to update all the odd ones but I may have missed some, in which case that's the example you want to copy-paste. As mentioned above, Zyumorph Dragon and Sinomorph Dragon serve as examples for odd situations involving dragons released after the new sort was added. Otherwise, all other plain normal sorting sections can be removed from a dragon's article- you're welcome to do this but please don't feel pressured to do so, I'll add it to my usual tasklist and work on it as well when I'm free.

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    • Ah, I totally forgot about the old name sort - I'll watch out for cases where they differ. Sinii Krai sorts under "Blue-"something, I think? So like Coastal Waverunner, that'll sit. I'll go for breeds where I'm 100% sure there's nothing unusual about their internal names/old names/etc.

      Also for your tasklist: Pygmy Dragons and Two-Headed Dragons were changed to Common Pygmies and Split Dragons, respectively, in the site update today (among other changes that I don't think will affect this wiki). Here's the announcement from TJ: https://forums.dragcave.net/topic/180109-2017-08-20-site-update/ I've changed the names and descriptions in the articles and added their old descriptions under Trivia, so I hope it's just a simple move and redirect to the new articles.

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    • Thanks, I completely missed the Sinii Krais actually- added that change in now. Another article to serve as an example :D

      Thanks for doing that and letting me know, didn't even see the update. By the looks of it, those 2 breed have been renamed but also all drakes, pygmies and two-headeds have gotten description updates; I'll be making a category page for this site update and bring the rest of the wiki up to date regarding those morphologies. The pygmy might be fine to redirect, but I fear the Splits might break as the wiki has an on-going problem of redirect abuse, so we've got triple or quadrupedal redirects on some articles which has been causing problems. I'll attend to the articles themselves first and then work on moving those two articles and fixing all their wiki links. (Edit: Both renamed and links across the wiki should be updated and working fine :) )

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    • Oh, one MORE thing with the site update: mistletoe sprites. See: Sprite https://dragcave.net/view/SaSHp Tikigurl's alt: https://dragcave.net/view/AOprF I don't have PieMaster's atm.

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    • Dirtytabs wrote: Oh, one MORE thing with the site update: mistletoe sprites. See: Sprite https://dragcave.net/view/SaSHp Tikigurl's alt: https://dragcave.net/view/AOprF I don't have PieMaster's atm.

      Thanks for that! I got a PM from one of the site artist's about it with all the sprites :)

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  • Pages moves need to be discussed with admins or senior editors unless prior approved through projects. I've moved back The Dragon Encyclopedia- this page was written for the event/its release, it's not specifically for the encyclopedia itself, that's what Category:Dragon Encyclopedia is for instead. Also, while the Description page move was a good one, the reason why page moves are left to senior editors is because they know you need to fix the links on pages that link to the article you renamed- this has been a huge issue in the past that's resulted in a lot of problems with images I've been trying to correct lately. If you're unsure of things, please ask myself or other senior editors around for advice.

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    • Understood. Sorry about that. Broken links, though - I assumed renamed pages still leave a redirect, so Descriptions still go Description, right? Or are old pages deleted? Edit: Oh okay, I see that they're deleted.

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    • They can leave a redirect if the user chooses to do so, and in the past this has been heavily abused to the point where nearly half our mainspace articles are just redirects, and almost 2000 file pages are redirects as well which lead to recent issues of triple redirects causing broken links and images on pages.

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  • Hiya Tabs! I was wondering if there was anything special about the screenshot you uploaded (I ask just in case because I miss details sometimes)- it appears to be like the regular hatchling screen/messages?

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    • Yo! I was going to add it to the Revive article before realizing that there wasn't a way to demonstrate two days were added in a single screenshot. But I've since fixed it with another screenshot and gave that article a picture.

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    • Ahh, that makes more sense! Thanks for using the Replace function rather than re-upload :P

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  • Hi there! I noticed that you've changed the table widths on many dragon sprite tables as well as re-uploaded several sprites. Looking at the previous version of articles, no sprites were resized with the old table values- I think this might be an issue with your browser. Likewise, did you upload the new sprites because they got updated on the site itself or were they appearing strange to you (as it again may be your browser)?

    p.s. Please don't add elements from the upgraded articles to the holiday ones just yet- I'm in the process of upgrading them off-site so they can all be changed at the same time on the wiki ;)

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    • I realized I was wrong about resizing several page changes later (whoops), but I didn't want to add yet another line of edits to the logs (yet), so I left them as they were... so... uh, you could decide if they needed to be reverted.

      I uploaded those sprites because the previous ones were the wrong color, possibly because they were saved under another profile instead of "display". It basically narrows the number of possible colors. I checked this in a different browser and took some screenshots from there:

      DC-goldhornedtangarc

      Old image's tangar is bluer than how it appears on site, and its wings are redder.

      DC-goldenwyvernc

      The top and bottom images have orange wyverns. The piercing yellows from the original sprite are gone.

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    • (The reason I only reverted this Golden Wyvern sprite was because I thought it would restore the original uploader's name on the article but after I realised it didn't, I just left the other ones alone.)

      .... I've never seen a situation like this happen before. All of the sprites look exactly the same on my screen, this is a screenshot of my view (not sure if this will help, I get the feeling it's going to look like what you currently see on the wiki). I took this to the Wikia Discord server and others are seeing the sprites as all the same just like me.

      I'm not 100% sure as to what's happening, but I think considering the issue you had with the sprites being resized by the table, that your browser or computer has some specific settings that are being applied to your view. Copied directly from the site (I never save images under different profiles, that would destroy the files information as you said), the site's image internal properties do indeed match yours, however I think your computer is rendering the information differently based on settings (are you on a Mac by any chance? Because I know they have specific display settings for this, I think called "Legacy"?). I opened up both files in Photoshop to analyse their internal data and your upload is showing extra PNG properties in Chromaticities and Gamma, which essentially amounts to a greater scale of colours that the file has saved, and looks like this. I'm reverting the one I changed back to yours simply because the internal information matches that on the site, but I should point out that even on your version of the file, Photoshop is giving me different hex colours than what you're getting (I'm not using the eyedropper from my browser- I've taken this info directly from inside the file itself, no dropper used), which means your browser/monitor/display settings is rendering something different for you. The 3 shades from your upload that you quoted for me are actually #f3e014, #f3a414 and #682100- was discussing this with another Wikia user and they found display settings on their computer that changed the shade rendering on their screen (i.e. displayed different hex colours) so it might be worth looking into.

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    • The golden wyverns in the file history screenshot you showed me indeed look exactly the same. I've reset my browser's settings to make sure I haven't fiddled with any colors, so now I don't see "shrunken" images (hooray!) but the yellow wyverns and yellowy tangars still appear different in their file history. I'm on a Mac, so it must be its wider color range. I also viewed these images from a computer that's running Windows 7, and while the tangars are different, the wyverns are exactly the same there, so I must've messed with the display on my own computer at some point. Were there any Mac users among the people you talked with, by any chance? I'll look into my display settings, too. Anyway, thanks for reverting, so users like me with uh, different settings can still see them as they appear on-site. :>

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  • Hi Dirtytabs! Please be wary in future edits about removing information- the wiki wants to gather more information rather than lose it, so be very picky and think hard about what it is you think should be removed from an article. A good rule of thumb is to first discuss the information you think should be removed in the article's talk page and see what other editors think of the change :)

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    • Oh well, I didn't know that bit until I looked at a few more pages with additional info. Also, the reason for deleting "yellow" from Anagallis Dragon's color entry was that I didn't think there was a substantial amount of yellow on them.

      Okay if I add the pronunciations of "Magi" and "Nhiostrife" to their respective pages? Quoting TJ and Birdz, of course.

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    • Yeah that's ok, but that's why it's best to confirm with others before removing information :)

      That would be a fantastic addition to the articles, I wasn't aware they had specific pronunciations! Thanks very much for finding and adding it :D That can be added as a Trivia point with a link to the post if you feel the quote is too short.

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